Episode 16

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17th Jun 2026

The Human Systems Every Transformation Needs with Brice Challamel

Why does AI adoption hit a wall inside large organizations? Brice Challamel joins to unpack what he's learned while leading people-first transformation at orgs like Moderna, and now at OpenAI as Head of AI Strategy and Adoption.

Brice shares his five components for supporting transformation, and what playfulness has to do with making AI stick. Plus: why Brice thinks the AI layoff narrative is wrong, and his case for a Nintendo as a super organization.

Watch this episode on YouTube here: https://youtu.be/fA80GvnAxCk

Links:

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About the Podcast

Supercompanies with Greg Shove
The smartest companies building the future
Every two weeks, Supercompanies brings you unfiltered conversations with the founders and CEOs actually building AI-native companies right now, no theory, no hype, just what's working and what's failing inside real organizations.

Hosted by Greg Shove, CEO of Section and a tech executive since before the Y2K scare, having founded seven companies including his time at AOL. Guests have included Zapier's Wade Foster, Fanvue's Joel Morris, and Logitech's Eric Porres.

Video versions of every episode, along with clips and highlights, are available on YouTube at @SupercompaniesPod.